EPISODE 1: INOCENT_KIDD: Prison Tattoos in Colombia

For this first episode of April 2020, I invited INOCENT KIDD (a young Frenchman) to talk about his daily life in his cell in a prison in Bogota and his practice of tattooing in a prison environment.

FUZI: Hi Inocent Kidd, could you explain to our listeners where you are and your story, and what brought you here?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, I'm French, but currently, I'm incarcerated in a prison in Bogota awaiting extradition. I might not necessarily disclose why or how, but for now, I'm here waiting for extradition, and I think within a year, I'll be repatriated to France.

FUZI: Okay, and how long have you been there?

INOCENT KIDD: It's been about nine months, eight to nine months, so it's going, it's not like what you see on TV, for sure it's not for the weak, but we're taking it day by day.

FUZI: For example, you're calling from your cell, so how does that work? Firstly, what's your environment like? And secondly, how do you manage to make calls? We'll get back to that because that's also part of why we're discussing... So first, what's your environment like? How's your cell?

INOCENT KIDD: Yes, so I'm in my cell, calling from my cell. There are six of us in a cell initially designed for two people, so it's a bit like in all prisons, but it's okay. Let's say I'm in a special extradition pavilion, so there are no troublemakers, so to speak. We all manage to live well, [???], so it's okay. There's a lot of respect in this pavilion.

FUZI: Okay, and regarding the calls, do you have a phone there that you have all the time? How does it work? Do you have to hide it?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, yeah, like in all prisons worldwide, but I think even more so in Latin America, there's a lot of corruption, so the phone is quite accessible, it's expensive, very expensive, but it's accessible. The same people who sell it to you are the same people who can take it away, it's the prison business, but yeah, you have to be careful, especially since it was a bit of a controversy in Colombia, why prisoners had phones, as there was a massive leak with videos being shared on the internet. So right now, more than usual, we really have very high, very strong frequency jammers, but it's okay; almost all of us have communication with the outside.

FUZI: What brought us to communicate is also the fact that you opened an Instagram account for the prison. Could you talk a bit about that, what you show on it, why you did it, and what kind of feedback you've received?

INOCENT KIDD: When I arrived here, everyone has to find their little job because it's all self-management. I don't receive any help from the French embassy or my family, so here, not to survive but to live, to have a bit of...

FUZI: A bit of income, and an occupation?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, a bit of income, to be able to eat well, some extras, you have to find a small job, internally. So since I know how to tattoo, I thought I would make it my profession here... So I started tattooing first to be able to get a phone, and then with the phone, I created the Instagram page, and it helps me feel a bit free with communication with the outside and try to develop a somewhat serious project, a bit of freedom for the outside .

FUZI: Did you already know how to tattoo before you arrived in prison there?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, yeah, I tattooed but as a hobby, you know, I tattooed my friends and my legs, but let's say I did my apprenticeship when I got caught; I did 43 days in custody...

FUZI: Where was that, was it there?

INOCENT KIDD: It was in Colombia, yeah, on the coast, and when I was incarcerated, in custody, there were seven of us in a small cell, two meters by two, with crazy people, small street narvalos, so to get respect, I asked the police if they could bring me needles and ink - tattoo equipment, sterilized needles, and Dynamic ink. I started tattooing other inmates, so it allowed me to have some comfort... they left me the mattress, the crazy ones washed my clothes or cleaned the cell, so it started like that. Then the police saw my work and really liked it, and I started tattooing the police... in 43 days of custody, I did almost 60-65 tattoos... between the inmates and the police. So, I had my comfort too; the police brought me beers, gave me a bit of freedom in the pavilion, I was the only one not locked up in the cell all day.

FUZI: Is that common in Colombia, that the guards bring you needles? It's a bit crazy when you hear that as a European - that the guards themselves bring you tattoo equipment?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, let's say here in Colombia, "money rules," there's a lot of corruption, so often the guards, the police, are as much bandits as the inmates, you know…

FUZI: Okay, it's not something surprising, right?

INOCENT KIDD: Not at all, here, whoever has money lives well, clearly... it's the same, and to bring the tattoo equipment into the prison, I did a similar system; it's more expensive, but yes, I have to pay the guards who will bring me my equipment.

FUZI: That was one of my questions, actually, to know how you manage to get it because for those who don't know, there are quite a few things needed for tattooing... I see every time, yes, every time you have to set up your entire tattoo stuff, you need Vaseline, needles, ink, soap for cleaning... Did you manage to get everything you need to do a tattoo? Would it be the same conditions if you were in Europe to do a tattoo? Do you manage to have the same "comfort" or at least the same hygiene?

INOCENT KIDD: I have the same comfort as a tattoo studio; however, I know that in prison in Europe and other countries, they have to make their own equipment: ink in prison, a homemade tattoo machine... and let's say here, in the pavilion where I am, as I told you, it's a bit special; there are people who have a lot of money. So, I can't afford to do a job for them; you know, it's complicated to do a clean job with a makeshift machine... so yeah, I needed to have real equipment from the outside. The clients here are more...

FUZI: It's important.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, that's it, that's it. It's not any kind of crime that we find in this pavilion, so...

FUZI: So, you can't mess up; it's like that.

INOCENT KIDD: No, I can't mess up; I don't have the right to make mistakes, and since we're all waiting for extradition, there are people going for several years [???], they are big cases, so...

FUZI: They don't expect a hastily done prison tattoo; they have expectations for a real tattoo.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, that's not what they expect.

FUZI: Okay, it should also be clarified to the listeners that your tattoo style, or at least not your style but your way of tattooing, is handpoke, meaning you don't use a machine. Do you want to talk a little about the technique?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, so it's completely done by hand, point by point. So, it's a plus for me here because, let's say, it would have been more complicated with a machine. I would have had more chances of having my equipment taken away; I would have had to hide more... whereas working this way, it's easier to hide the equipment, so if we hear that the guards are entering the pavilion or entering the courtyard, I can more easily hide my stuff.

[A fellow inmate addresses Inocent Kidd in Spanish]

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, that's what I mean; we are six in the cell; it's a bit complicated.

FUZI: So, let's go back; we were talking a bit about the technique you used, so for those who aren't familiar with how it works, you can maybe go back a bit to the technical side...

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, so it's really a hand technique, point by point, as the name suggests, handpoke, hand for the hand, and poke for the point. I think you need to have a bit more precision; well, tattoos hurt less, and they heal faster... but the time it takes is really longer.

FUZI: Right, so basically, you don't use a machine, we agree.

INOCENT KIDD: My machine is my hand.

FUZI: Okay, but it's also something that has historically been used a bit in prisons, the handpoke aspect, because it's still the most, not "technical," but it requires the least amount of equipment...

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, it's the most primitive thing; it's a bit the essence of tattooing, before the machine was on the market. But in prisons, I think it fits well with the character Inocent Kidd and the environment in which I work.

FUZI: In a way, you adapted to this environment, no matter what; were you doing handpoke before prison? Was that your way of tattooing, or did you use a machine before?

INOCENT KIDD: No, no, I always tattooed by hand; I tell you, I had never really taken it seriously; it was just a hobby to pass the time...

FUZI: Okay, and do you consider yourself a tattoo artist in that sense? One, do you consider yourself a tattoo artist, and two, before, was there a point where you had influences or knew the history of tattooing, you know what I mean? Were you really involved in tattooing, and are you more so now?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, yeah, so I consider myself a tattoo artist, an artist; I think art has no boundaries, no bars, so it's a bit of what helps me feel free here... but yeah, outside, before being incarcerated, I didn't really... I wasn't fully into tattooing; I have many friends who tattoo, and I have a lot of tattoos on my body, so I have always been interested in tattooing, but I didn't think... it wasn't my goal or objective to become a tattoo artist.

FUZI: It's the prison, it's what happened in your story that led you to tattooing.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, of course, but in prison, when you are deprived of freedom, you have a bit of time to think about your future, your projects, and especially you have time to think about yourself, outside I was always here and there helping this person do this or that, moving around, so I didn't really have time to think, to know myself.

FUZI: Can you tell us how old you are?

INOCENT KIDD: I'm 27; by the way, I celebrated my birthday here in prison... birthdays, New Year, and Christmas are a bit the toughest times, but well, it's passed.

FUZI: So, you don't have any particular influences in tattooing?

INOCENT KIDD: Um, influences, how, in inspiration, you mean?

FUZI: I was thinking of influences, from other tattoo artists, or do you know what I mean?

INOCENT KIDD: Ah, as I told you, I have quite a few friends who started tattooing a few years ago, so today, I really thank them because they made this project possible. They really supported me in creating the Instagram Inocent Kidd, and they gave me strength, really to share all of this, so yeah, I do have a bit of influence in the sense that I know tattoo artists from the outside, but they didn't know me as a tattoo artist; in fact, it surprised quite a few people.

FUZI: Okay, and getting back to something more basic, how does it work when you tattoo? What are the risks if you get caught, especially in the context of prison?

INOCENT KIDD: Let's say I don't know because it hasn't happened to me.

FUZI: Well, that's good.

INOCENT KIDD: I think having my equipment taken away, you know, having the needles taken away, I don't think they would put me in custody or in isolation.

FUZI: And how does it work in practice? Is there someone watching? I would like to know a bit about the process...

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, there's a bit of everything; let's say that at the beginning when I arrived, people didn't necessarily believe that I knew how to tattoo, so I had to do a little something on my leg and tattoo one of my fellow inmates. So, people saw that it was serious, [???] the guy knows how to do something. And gradually, I started tattooing the young ones a bit, giving them flash tattoos or my ideas. And then I touched everyone, even the toughest ones who are not necessarily attracted to my flash, but they come with cool ideas, or I rework the design a bit, mostly it's often names, you know, for their families. And as I told you, since we're all waiting for extradition, many will spend several years without seeing their families, so it's cool to think that prison tattoos here, in this pavilion, are very family-oriented... often I have to do names, small things, or like the same tattoo as the woman outside, little things like that. I find it cool; in fact, I've tattooed many people here who didn't have a single tattoo.

FUZI: So, it's not about criminal symbols or things we might imagine from street tattoos, right?

INOCENT KIDD: No, precisely, we are far from the somewhat criminal Russian codes where tattoos really show a hierarchy within the prison, things like that, no, here it's more about family, memories, things like that.

FUZI: It's interesting to point that out; maybe it's precisely because where you are, they might be more mature, and these are people who have already spent time in prison; they have nothing to prove in their tattoos, is that right?

INOCENT KIDD: Exactly, they have nothing to prove in their tattoos; it's more yeah, related to the family.

FUZI: And do you draw regularly to offer new designs, or is it really on the spot when the guy comes, you draw something? How does this process work?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, a bit of both, you see, I draw, but generally what I draw doesn't necessarily please here. After that, it depends on who; I've seen that thanks to Instagram, many people from the outside want to get tattooed here in prison...

FUZI: So, talk to me a bit about that because it's completely crazy, is it possible? I mean, people from the outside can come and get a tattoo?

INOCENT KIDD: Without permission, it's not making an appointment; it would be illegal, so it would be during visiting days because every Saturday, we have male visits, and it's all day in the courtyard, not like in our visiting room, we'll say that visits in Latin American prisons are something that is highly respected, guards don't enter the pavilion, so there's a way...

FUZI: So, to explain to us, they "open," you have a right to visit, and from the moment you have a right to visit, the courtyard is open, and everyone goes to see the person they have to visit without being monitored, so you have some free time.

INOCENT KIDD: Exactly, yeah, you can walk around freely in the pavilion, in the gym, in the cell, so there's a possibility for people from the outside to get tattooed, people from the outside who are more into tattoos; actually, many tattoo artists may come, perhaps for the experience of tattooing in prison, and there, yeah, I mostly have flashes to offer, things like that. So, yes, I draw, but generally, the tattoos I execute here for inmates are more things they have already seen or ideas they have.

FUZI: And does that bother you, or is it something you would like to do a bit more creative stuff, or are you content with it because it's also a way for you to survive and keep yourself busy in prison?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, let's say that when it's small names and things like that, it's not what interests me the most, but I still take it up a level; it allows me to practice, and then it allows me to make money, and that money is used for food, comfort, so I never say no to any project. By the way, there's something funny lately, a guy comes to see me; he has some kind of scar on his head, and he wants me to tattoo hair, you know, micro-pigmentation stuff , so yeah, I say yes, it's good for learning, we'll say.

FUZI: Yeah, it's true, especially at the beginning when you're tattooing, you look for as much practice as possible, right? It's like that for everyone. So, I imagine for you, it's a kind of emulation to have all these people "at your disposal" asking you to practice.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, that's something I didn't expect at all. As I mentioned, my goal is really to build something solid for when I'm free, so I don't turn down anything. When it comes to my own flashes and quirky ideas, I don't charge. You know, I have friends, young guys, so I tell them if you're interested, I'll do this flash for free, or we can work out a deal. This allows me to do both, to create tattoos that I can share on Instagram, ones that align more with my persona, and also to do other styles of tattoos, like lettering. I really don't turn anything away; everything is fair game.

FUZI: We talked a bit before this, and you mentioned that often the people you tattoo tend to open up a bit, share some stories. Would you like to talk a bit about that? I know it's something interesting that has left an impression on you.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, it's something I find cool; it's a bit like when people go to the hairdresser, they start sharing their lives. Here, it happens the same way because the prison stories might not be the kind you hear outside at the hairdresser's, you know. So, it's interesting; they open up, tell me some crazy stuff, and I have completely wild anecdotes. It also creates a somewhat private connection between the tattoo artist and the person getting the tattoo. I gain a lot of trust; there are really people - especially when I arrived in this block - most of them are Colombians, and they already knew each other outside; they have a connection where they know who is who. I arrived completely alone, so it allowed me to get to know people, make myself known, and gain the trust of the other inmates.

FUZI: I imagine your daily routine is super regulated with waking up, sleeping hours, etc. So, when do you do these kinds of things, especially when can you tattoo? Does it change according to the rounds, the atmosphere, or how things are going, or are there fixed hours?

INOCENT KIDD: Absolutely, it does affect my work because at 7 a.m., we get counted, and at 4 p.m., we get counted again. So, if I start tattooing before 7 a.m. or if I see that I won't finish before 4 p.m., there's always an interruption, and people here are not very patient. So, it's better to finish as quickly as possible. I try to tattoo between 7 a.m. and 4 p.m., unless a cellmate wants me to tattoo him; then, I tattoo him in the evening since we get locked up at 6 p.m.

FUZI: And usually, how much time does a tattoo take?

INOCENT KIDD: Let's say recently, I've been doing it faster. Well, it really depends on the tattoo, the skin, the placement, and all that, but let's say between one and four hours of work on average. Sometimes I've done tattoos for 6 hours, and I've done smaller ones in 40 minutes.

FUZI: For now, no one is asking you for a big piece, like a back or something, right? I imagine you'd like that?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, yes, exactly. Sometimes there are guys who don't quite understand the technique, especially here in Colombia, you know, tattooing is cultural, and here the culture is religious. So, most want crosses, virgins, things like that, so they are big pieces, tigers, things I can't execute.

FUZI: For example, if someone asks you for a back, you can't do it in several sessions, you haven't gotten into that yet?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, I've thought about it, but as I told you, people here are not too patient because sometimes there are tattoos that I have to touch up, and the guys are like, "No, it's good, I'm fed up, you're exaggerating, I'm already paying to get stabbed."

FUZI: That's the mentality, okay. So, it's complicated to just explain the concept that you'll have to come back.

INOCENT KIDD: Well, if an opportunity arises, I won't say no; everything is fair game. I really see my situation and what I'm going through, the life experience I'm going through, I see it as a learning experience. There's a lot to gain mentally, physically, and in art as well.

FUZI: It's interesting that you've managed to find a way to take it in that way and to feed off what you're experiencing. Regarding that, I'd like you to talk a bit about why Instagram and if you've heard of any other Instagram accounts like yours.

INOCENT KIDD: Well, yeah, I created Instagram first, as I told you, because it really allows me to keep a connection with the outside. I receive a lot of supportive messages, so it helps me a lot psychologically, and also to share my work. As I told you, I see it as a work tool.

FUZI: But what's interesting is that everyone opens Instagram; it's part of being a creative or even just everyone has Instagram, Facebook, something like that. And indeed, more and more, even people in prison are going to show their daily lives through Instagram... I'm still surprised, even though it seems natural now - it's natural that people in prison also open an Instagram. But I imagine you've had feedback about that. So, what have been the reactions? I imagine there have been positive ones, but there have also probably been negative ones because there's the side where people might take it badly that individuals being punished for a crime have a "normal" life and are like them, meaning they open Facebook, Instagram, and talk about their daily lives. What have been the reactions to that?

INOCENT KIDD: Completely, well, I've had a bit of both. It's good because the largest percentage is still positive feedback. People even ask me why I'm in prison; what you're doing is too cool, you have so much talent, why are you there? Still, I've also received some negative messages, like, "You live better than me outside; it's not normal. How come you eat well?" because, you know, I show a bit of my daily life, and there are people who...

FUZI: It's important for people listening to know that you don't just show photos of your tattoos; you also show what you do every day, your daily life, especially in your stories.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, I take a bit of a risk showing taboo things, I find it cool because people like it. I've received messages from people who were almost, let's say, addicted, like, "Every day I wait for you to show a story. If I don't show a story for twenty-four hours, it's a panic." It's cool.

FUZI: You've become an influencer.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, some kind of crazy prison YouTuber... As you say, for the most part, it was mostly positive feedback. For a while, I received quite a bit of negative feedback, but I think I know how to talk, I know how to express myself, I speak Spanish fluently, so I answered all that, and I made it clear that, yeah, not everyone in prison is bad. There's more than just the crime; there's also the human being.

FUZI: Because you make it a point to respond to everyone, right? That's what you were telling me a bit earlier.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, I try. Well, I have the time here, we have time for that, so let's say I try to respond, and, above all, considering the benefit, I think it's good not to ignore everyone. There are even people who wanted to harm me, who reported me, all that, and who started to attack me, talk badly to me on Instagram in DMs. In the end, I replied, and we managed to find – well, at the end, they're not really friends, but the guys talk to me every day, "yeah, everything's fine," even though at first, they were attacking me. It's also to make people understand that in prison, there is the crime, but there is also the human being.

FUZI: Especially, yes, because you're taking risks by showing all that; it's not insignificant. It's a testimony of what you're going through, but at the same time, it's risky because it really puts the spotlight on what you're doing, on who you are. So, it's a double-edged sword; are you aware of that?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, completely, of course. I like it because it spices up my life here, my daily life. I'm not in a depressive monotony; on the contrary, I'm always a bit alert, paying attention to this, to that. So, it's cool, and besides, I was a bit like that on the outside, so let's say I continue to be like that inside.

FUZI: Okay, and how do you see it because you mentioned hoping to be out of here in less than a year or what...

INOCENT KIDD: Well, listen, yeah, I haven't been sentenced yet. My trial is in Europe, not in Colombia, so we'll see how it goes. It should go well since I don't really have anything to do with what I'm accused of. So, I hope to be out once the trial is over. I think in about six months, I'll be extradited, but with the problem of coronavirus and all that, COVID, extraditions have kind of stopped. But I think once that's over, I'll be sent back to Europe and manage my story.

FUZI: Let's talk quickly about the coronavirus; what are the implications in prison? Are you protected? Are you informed? How does it go?

INOCENT KIDD: Well, as I told you, Colombia is a really corrupt country, so even what they show on TV, you really shouldn't trust it; you shouldn't trust anything. So, we are informed, but a lot is being hidden from us. We don't have medical assistance inside; it's really everyone for themselves. I have masks, I have protection, I have gel, but it's because I live with someone who has a lot of money and managed to get it in under the table. But let's say the prison system doesn't give us anything.

FUZI: Are there people who are sick? You don't even know?

INOCENT KIDD: No, well, there are people who are sick, with little flus and all, but we haven't had any corona cases here in the prison. But, as I told you, if you have symptoms, you go to the prison doctor, who is kind of useless...

FUZI: It's complicated.

INOCENT KIDD: It's complicated; I think even if there was a case in the block, they wouldn't necessarily tell us.

FUZI: Yeah, yeah, well, it's already complicated in Europe.

INOCENT KIDD: Especially with what happened there with the massive leaks, where it really went crazy, there were a lot of deaths, a lot of injuries...

FUZI: And what was that due to? Can you tell us about this story of massive leaks?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, in fact, the plan was to protest a bit for our rights, the right to life, our human rights, to protest without necessarily resorting to violence...

FUZI: Inside the prison?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, that's it. So, in our block, we made some noise on the doors. I know that in other blocks in the prison, they burned clothes, caused a bit of a scandal, but in other prisons, it really went crazy. Some guys really took advantage of the protest to escape, and it didn't go well at all. There are more than 23 deaths, I believe...

FUZI: And did that happen in your prison?

INOCENT KIDD: No, in another prison here in Bogota.

FUZI: Okay.

INOCENT KIDD: Where they hold national offenders, minor offenses.

FUZI: Okay, yeah, so there's still tension arising from the fact that the virus is there, and you're not informed, and...

INOCENT KIDD: Especially when we hear, when we see on TV what's happening in other prisons, in other countries. Clearly, if the virus arrives here in the prison in Colombia, I think the country, Colombia, is not ready to face the virus. So, if it happens in prison, we're a bit screwed. I'm fine; I'm young, but there are many old people, elderly here.

FUZI: Yeah, it creates stress and frustration, for sure.

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, it's a frustration of being powerless, not really knowing how to handle the situation.

FUZI: Okay, and regarding your future, since I think you still have hope of getting out soon; do you see yourself continuing with tattooing? We talked a bit about the fact that you gained quite a few followers on your Instagram (I'll provide the Instagram at the end or on the site so people can see what you do and follow if they're interested). But how do you see the future, do you see it in tattooing? I know we also talked a lot about you reading a lot... do you want to testify about this experience through writing, photography... what do you see in all this?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, yeah, there are a lot of projects going on right now; my mind is really focused on the future. Anyway, I see it in the art world, I don't know, I think, yes, tattooing will stick around because I enjoyed the vibe, and I see that it's working well. I've really delved into the history of tattooing, so it interests me. If it can work in the tattooing world, that's great; it would be really awesome. And yeah, I have several projects: photos, releasing a photobook, maybe a small book, a fanzine—really, as I told you, everything is worth considering. For now, I'm trying to gather as much information as possible, and we'll see how these events unfold when I get out. In any case, I'm sure I will draw only good things from this situation, both physically and project-wise, and also psychologically. I think it depends on the people, but if you manage to...

FUZI: Stay positive?

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, exactly. If you manage to see things positively, I think you can be a better person coming out, maybe have more...

FUZI: Use this experience to value yourself and come out better...

INOCENT KIDD: Value the simple things in life, freedom, and maybe put your ego aside a bit. I think that's what you mostly learn in prison; you come in, but your ego doesn't come in through the same door, you know?

FUZI: That's interesting because nowadays, more and more, tattoo artists or artists, in general, have an inflated ego, even without having practiced much, you know what I mean? It's not necessarily related to their talent or the number of years they've been practicing... and I notice that among tattoo artists as well. And it's true that you, by force of circumstances, put yourself in a situation where your ego isn't what's important; it's more about the moment you're going to share with the person getting the tattoo.

INOCENT KIDD: Exactly, it's really living in the present moment.

FUZI: And you're still super attentive to your client, you have no choice...

INOCENT KIDD: Yeah, it's clear; it's really a different clientele than outside. You really can't act all proud; these are people who have a completely different life experience than us on the outside. Well, than us, no, but we didn't have the same adolescence, let's say...

FUZI: Or the same life, it's clear... Well, I think it was really interesting what you told us. Do you want to add something I didn't ask you?

NOCENT KIDD: Well, yeah, maybe to give strength to another young guy who is in prison in Europe, yeah, I hope to give him a bit of strength, and I hope he gets out quickly too. A big thank you to everyone, to all those who support me, to you, and everyone who believes in me...

FUZI: That's positive, and we're eagerly awaiting your return to Europe and also to see what you're going to do, how you'll continue on this path. We'll leave your Instagram for everyone on instagram @inocent_kidd, go visit, go follow, and there you go. Thanks for everything.